tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post5015882552200999770..comments2023-10-09T11:35:37.953+01:00Comments on Cuffe Street: Eleventh HourCiaránhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12013998074728053786noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-70247309865153494802009-12-23T20:50:42.775+00:002009-12-23T20:50:42.775+00:00NAMA is just more of trying to resurrect the cult ...NAMA is just more of trying to resurrect the cult of "boom-bust buildings and big cars". Your party had a historic opportunity, but chose to sell out the entire country and the next generation for a short term stay in office. At the next general election your party will get no forgiveness. <br /><br />Your banking scheme has shown no mercy to my generation. Why should we show any to you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-59756958381947639002009-10-13T14:00:20.866+01:002009-10-13T14:00:20.866+01:00"She talked about how necessary it is to have..."She talked about how necessary it is to have Green Party as a force in Irish politics, to tackle energy and climate change issues."<br /><br />After selling out their principles and putting the next generation of Irish people into financial bondage to save Fianna Fail's developer buddies, I guess the only thing that the Green Party have left now is emotional blackmail ("Oh my god, like vote for us or the whales die!").<br /><br />P.Paul Moloneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13895866063647012929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-61373464914411588612009-10-12T02:33:07.248+01:002009-10-12T02:33:07.248+01:00Net Present Value For Dummies - By Limerick Escape...<b>Net Present Value For Dummies - By Limerick Escapee & Language Teecher.</b><br /><br />NPV of NAMA to Green Party Leaders: Zero.<br /><br /><br />NPV of NAMA to Taxpayers: €38 billion in lost interest <br /><i>(assuming 'break-even' from forced house-price-inflation causing homelessness).</i><br /><br /><br /><br />NPV of Mr Gormley's Pension - Oct 2009: Not bad. <br />Escape from Ringsend's lousy bicycle paths and incinerator. Free at last.<br /><br /><br />NPV of Mr Gormley's Pension - Oct 2012: Excellent. <br />Retirement in Bali. Lucrative directorships in the Green Friends-of-EPA Industry.<br /><br />http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qdRqFPGZw2o/SqQNPClC5aI/AAAAAAAABzo/pEKy_UccBJc/s1600-h/thegormley-5.gifThe Galway Tenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05785991600065262397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-9053609491596436302009-10-11T18:16:56.536+01:002009-10-11T18:16:56.536+01:00So let me see if I have this right, Ciaran -
I s...So let me see if I have this right, Ciaran - <br /><br />I seem to remember talk from Green quarters just a couple of weeks ago that healthcare was a crucial issue for the Greens - specifically with regard to a single tier health system - looks abandoned to me.<br /><br />The commitment to recruit 500 extra teachers over the next three years is great, but it still falls well short of the promise by the Greens to reverse the education cuts imposed over the last year or so.<br /><br />The one thing that strikes me is that where new items are included in the Revised Programme they are really vague and without any specific timeframe. Fianna Fail has succeeded in diverting most of what they regarded as difficult issues into reviews or studies. Indeed the fact that the term 'review' is used 41 times in 43 pages sums up this document!!!!<br /> <br />Promises to ban fur farming and stag hunting are certainly worthy, but will be little consolation those who face cuts in the social welfare payments. Mary Hanafin has made it clear that social welfare cuts are coming in the December budget, but this shocking prospect does not even appear to have been on the Green Party agenda. <br /><br />You'll all stumble on for a while longer, but when the end comes, you will all lose your seats and your party will be destroyed.<br /><br />This country needs a new government with a new mandate - by that I mean a government elected by a recession-hit electorate, not a government elected during the tail end of an economic boom.<br /><br />The failure of teh Green Party to walk out on FF is a defining moment in Irish history - not because of any particular Green Party policy or individual, but because the Green Party are propping up a political party that is bereft of ideas or idealogy.<br /><br />For shame, Ciaran, for shame.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08694616808422772331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-56193467531099463482009-10-11T00:23:12.366+01:002009-10-11T00:23:12.366+01:00Never again will I even consider giving a Green a ...Never again will I even consider giving a Green a preference while the current "leadership" is involved - your party has been, just like all those other powers you proclaim yourselves to be morally superior to - corrupted by power. Studies and working groups are all that have been achieved, and you have given a veto on national policy to the most mollycoddled workforce of all, our teachers. Shame on you, for inflicting up to three more years of FF on the country. Shame on you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-71774824150201159882009-10-10T22:48:28.499+01:002009-10-10T22:48:28.499+01:00Ciaran,
I commented earlier at 09 October, 2009 1...Ciaran,<br /><br />I commented earlier at 09 October, 2009 17:00.<br /><br />Have the Greens done a Michael McDowell - threatening to pull out but never doing so no matter what occurs and all in exchange for promises never kept or delivered on.<br /><br />I think you have only fooled yourselves into thinking you are radical.<br /><br />Fianna Fail have done the Greens over a second time but you think you did them. <br /><br />I cannot begin to express the depth of disappointment I feel. I used transfer high to greens, my first going elsewhere.<br /><br />Will paltry promises win my or other votes back to the greens. <br /><br />I believe the Greens have sealed their fate today. A sad day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-90333592636941354172009-10-10T21:25:32.777+01:002009-10-10T21:25:32.777+01:00I wish you and your party good luck with the PFG -...I wish you and your party good luck with the PFG - I see no reason to be confident that this Govt can deliver. I am never voting green again. having worked for the last 25 years plus, I now see my income shrinking, my working days getting longer and my kids deprived of my time even more. I never thought it would come to a point where all that we have strived for would be so precarious. We have lived within our means for the past 10 years unlike some and here we are turning over every penny twice! We might as well have borrowed to the hilt and taken a chance. The Irish don't seem to mind a bit of corruption as long as they are not found out and when they are they still get to walk away with their financial security intact. I've had it. I remember asking Barry Andrews once why he doesn't do something about the fact that many civil servants get free city centre parking in car parks that are rented by the State [with tax payer's money] at great expense and without having to pay a BIK and he replied that if he did he wouldn't be very popular! Gosh and there was me not realising that politics is a popularity contest! You need not come knocking on my door next time round - not that any one does, the onyl sighting of any of the local TDs is at the DART station in the run up to the election - lenty of time for the meaningful chat then as I dash for the DART to do an honest day's work for what used to be an honest day's pay!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-54219939950223783882009-10-10T13:08:33.775+01:002009-10-10T13:08:33.775+01:00I read with dismay the 'deal' agreed last ...I read with dismay the 'deal' agreed last night, are you guys for real? Do you not realise there is an economic crisis on? Fiddling while Rome burns is really not the answer.<br /><br />The tax burden is going to go through the roof to pay for all this irresponsible spending and borrowing and for what...<br /><br />if you were really interested in education, you'd cut back teachers salaries to German levels and get the extra spending that way...instead we'll get hard working people on low incomes crucified to pay for rich kids to go to college...<br /><br />but don't worry, it doesn't add up, your taxing nthe economy to extinction will create a slum state that will collapse on itself...this will restore responsible government<br /><br />BTW, green jobs or jobs for the boys...every taxpayer will have to pay for these so-called jobs. Colm McCarthy pointed out the wishful thinking behind this nonsense in yesterday's Irish Times.<br /><br />Get out while you still can even if it means losing your seat. The hard working people of this country will restore growth.Ciaran Dalyhttp://libertyireland.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-43773930722766061512009-10-10T11:01:08.782+01:002009-10-10T11:01:08.782+01:00TRAITORS,make sure you qualify for your pensions b...TRAITORS,make sure you qualify for your pensions before you leave.you are not fit too call yourself irish democrats,you failed the electorate!move too iran,china you will love politics there.dont insult us with your ff dribble,we are not stupid.prepare to be wiped out,be it now or 2012.you are finished as a party,marry ff now you are both finished!disgusting!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-10000806326183242492009-10-10T10:50:13.171+01:002009-10-10T10:50:13.171+01:00TRAITORS,you have no right denying the people thei...TRAITORS,you have no right denying the people their voice,so you lot can have your pensions and power!i hope the greens are wiped out,when we get our chance to vote.you are feeding the junkies fix for power!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-45480561209345317972009-10-10T05:48:46.532+01:002009-10-10T05:48:46.532+01:00If you don't walk I promise you the people wil...If you don't walk I promise you the people will not vote for your party for the next 20 years.<br /><br />The people that were interested in the green party to begin with are people with integrity, propping up fianna fail shows the lack of character your party currently has.<br /><br />My advice to you if you really care for your party and this country is that later today you give a televised speech declaring that you are pulling out and tell the country exactly why.<br /> <br />You wont be seen as a party pulling out in hard times, you will be seen as one protecting the people. <br /><br />This would be a great time to detach yourselves from the fianna fail umbrella and educate the country of your positive policies and the great need for real political change which is not possible with fianna fail in the way.<br /><br />If you stick it out your party is as good as dead in 2012 and the important policies you believe in will die with it.<br /><br />People want Fianna Fail out, you are the only way we can get them out. The people will respect you for speaking out against a travesty of a party.<br /><br />How do you honestly think you will be trusted if you keep them in? Or do you think the people will forget this come election?MrMcQ2uhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09445616094688917450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-61227891211698514972009-10-09T23:27:02.626+01:002009-10-09T23:27:02.626+01:00You people are the scum of the earth, propping up ...You people are the scum of the earth, propping up FF in power. Don't think for a moment that this will save your party, we are waiting for the opportunity to punish the parties to sustaining FF in power. Be it next month or 2012, you will be punished, and it will be deserved. Principles my ass, you;re enjoying the mercs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-78290400365408033542009-10-09T21:29:50.647+01:002009-10-09T21:29:50.647+01:00I see you have not got the balls to post my earlie...I see you have not got the balls to post my earlier comment at lunch time.<br /><br />Exert from Ciaran Cuffe's blog last night.<br />"If we don't conclude talks tomorrow morning with Fianna Fáil on transforming the Programme for Government we walk."<br /><br />It's now lunchtime and they are still talking.<br /><br />Typical Green's<br /><br />ALL TALK NO WALK<br /><br /><br />9 hours later and the talking has stopped, you have achieved your program, who are you trying to kid???? Oh yes your own party members!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-32361059089484762062009-10-09T20:45:22.324+01:002009-10-09T20:45:22.324+01:00nama and destruction it will cause is far bigger t...nama and destruction it will cause is far bigger than any one individual or party!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-87682921936510882332009-10-09T20:43:26.848+01:002009-10-09T20:43:26.848+01:00now that Lisbon has been passed, the biggest issue...now that Lisbon has been passed, the biggest issues are the economy and nama. The notion of nama is disgusting, we have thousands of unemployed and needy... we are all going to be paying hugely for the greed of a few at the expense of all! Im hoping for either massive concessions by ff on nama or that the green party walk! what is the green position on reducing the Public Service salary?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-21111735574611344192009-10-09T18:20:47.505+01:002009-10-09T18:20:47.505+01:00It's now past lunchtime and you haven't wa...It's now past lunchtime and you haven't walked.<br /><br />Don't you realise that if you and the rest of the Green TDs don't walk now you are all screwed and so is the country.<br /><br />Once you agree the PFG, you are screwed. Even if the Green convention tomorrow votes down the PFG, that won't save you.<br /><br />The 6 Green TDs need to show they have metal.<br /><br />Pull out now and live to fight your policies another day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-67225112691082922092009-10-09T18:19:52.407+01:002009-10-09T18:19:52.407+01:00That observation about the FF backbencher who has ...That observation about the FF backbencher who has to spend all his time attending funerals in his constituency sums up what is wrong with the electoral system in this country - parish pump politics. Most TDs are in thrall to their constituencies and all the vested interests therein. They are bogged down dealing with minor local issues that by rights should be the responsibility of local government. The election posters reflect this lack of sophistication. It's all beaming mug shots so that the locals will remember someone who did them a favour (or attended their father's funeral) and vote for them. Actual policies or issues of national importance don't get a look in. There should be fewer TDs and they should concentrate on legislation, not potholes in the roads.Catherinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-73910855313895228282009-10-09T17:00:17.883+01:002009-10-09T17:00:17.883+01:00Ciaran,
Good post.
Tomorrow your party must deci...Ciaran,<br /><br />Good post.<br /><br />Tomorrow your party must decide whether you would tolerate the actions of the FF party if committed by Green party TDs or members.<br /><br />Clearly you would not as you as a party have integrity.<br /><br />Now that integrity must be applied. <br /><br />People will vote greens again but not if you fall with them. Time to push first.<br /><br />Good luck with what is a critical choice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-12120535953121517742009-10-09T16:44:33.894+01:002009-10-09T16:44:33.894+01:00I like the photo at the top of this post, Ciaran; ...I like the photo at the top of this post, Ciaran; very apt.<br /><br />Is your party willing to take the "road less travelled?" <br /><br />I'm not a supporter of your party, and frankly I find some of your 'greener' members' views what I shall kindly call unrealistically Utopian (rather than saying "bordering on excessive and irrational zealotry" for example). <br /><br />Nevertheless, on the whole your party seems to consist of people who genuinely feel that they have a commitment to providing a better world. <br /><br />In this context, it must be especially frustrating to find yourselves enmeshed (in citizens' minds) with a group of politically-institutionalised incompetents, many of whom represent that (happily dying) generation of gombeen-men (and women) who glory in their ignorance, their anti-intellectualism, their cronyism, their egregiousness, and who represent the worst of the human spirit. <br /><br />Sadly, I do not think that you as a party will be thanked for whatever policies for implementation you manage to negotiate with the largest party in the Dáil, rather people will interpret your party's resolution as maintaining the most unpopular government in the history of our benighted land. I would suggest that a more beneficial road (let's keep on-metaphor) for your members to take would be to dissolve your unhappy political alliance, disengage from a party of the past, and look to a future where you will at least have the respect of Irish citizens and the <i>potential</i> to return to government sooner rather than later.<br /><br />Best of luck undertaking whatever course you decide.<br /><br />Michael Hanley<br />--Michael Hanleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07213504001447084845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-11487204331758673172009-10-09T16:02:59.213+01:002009-10-09T16:02:59.213+01:00Do not let Nama happen. Fianna Fail are hoodwinkin...Do not let Nama happen. Fianna Fail are hoodwinking and this has to be stopped. Let's take a deep breadth and get this as right as we can. They are reverting to type and please do not fall for what they have in mind.<br />This government is going to fall in the next few months. Do not leave Nama as partg of your legacy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-55806118064498188602009-10-09T15:46:05.327+01:002009-10-09T15:46:05.327+01:00Ok it's after lunchtime and you havn't wal...Ok it's after lunchtime and you havn't walked So maybe this government is over. I hope so. It is destroying the Greens, they have become contaminated. How can the Greens move forward and ignore the wisdom of people like Richard Douthwaite, a true Green. Nama in any form is massive transfer of wealth(theft) no matter how its spun. It is pro institution and is anti-human. Please pull the plug for all our sakes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-24656774939318546982009-10-09T15:43:35.245+01:002009-10-09T15:43:35.245+01:00Ciarán, its clearly past lunch time now, and we ha...Ciarán, its clearly past lunch time now, and we have seen no Green ministers resign.<br />Clearly a political bluff.<br />And once again a lie from the political elite in Ireland.<br />I dont think you can afford something like this now that DLR is a 4 seater.<br />Best of luck.Stiofánnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-6383003694351615292009-10-09T15:32:34.464+01:002009-10-09T15:32:34.464+01:00I thought you're walking out at lunch Cuffee, ...I thought you're walking out at lunch Cuffee, what happened?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-33515742293649565012009-10-09T15:09:39.830+01:002009-10-09T15:09:39.830+01:00Please pull out and remove the cancer that is Fian...Please pull out and remove the cancer that is Fianna Fail from government. There is no way I can vote for a Green Party that keep this by-word for incompetence in governance in power.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11965515.post-61826151874988002452009-10-09T14:50:20.140+01:002009-10-09T14:50:20.140+01:00"All that is necessary for the triumph of evi..."All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)<br /><br />Cowen's attitude is "do it my way or walk the plank". He has absolutely no leadership qualities whatsoever as is evident from his "burying is head in the sand" since being elected as Taoiseach of Ireland.<br /><br />Be good men and put your ideals before your careersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com